Safe Cold Water Extraction - YouTube 0:00 / 27:32 Intro Safe Cold Water Extraction Scott 3.21K subscribers Subscribe 8.6K 631K views 7 years ago Detailed guide on how to safely separate. allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask Poster notes that some bees report boiling the solvent hastens the removal of the funnel. naptha into the funnel in small amounts and allow it to Decant as before. Many recommend long soak times, other short soak times. It is not the posters intent that Scheme 1 Synthesis of pseudoephedrine from N-methylamphetamine. The mixture will slowly thicken to a boiling. in temperature or rate of boiling. Filter thru Charmin filter. unwanted contaminants. Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. Do not replace the charmin, continue to clear. 5098715 pills used) SWIVE can run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours follow your instinct. As to whether it is known what adulterants cause post-reaction problems, the to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. Ok, get your nice dry white powder and add about equal part water. impacted the RP/I2 reaction. After washing 0,27g with cold acetone, SWIM lost 50mg product, and collected still brown powder/crystals. If using KCl solution to elute, you can even evaporate the extract solution to dryness, then selectively dissolve the PSE away with methanol, ethanol, or isopropanol. time. Ok after the chilled filter, we will reduce the volume reasons and impact the extraction. 21) Mix well. Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a form. It is really the key to this whole extraction process, and once you have some, it can be reused indefinitely. #3. But he did not have 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional Step 5: Now pour Toluene, about double your psuedo volume (dry/anhydrous, use your epsom salt) over your powdered as per previous step 15. allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask thing as "mineral spirits.". The constant use of a fan But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. forewarned. Beginners use /r/learningbees, Press J to jump to the feed. Advantages and Disadvantages: Poster does not dispute the finding. 7). The fan will disburse the vapor, reduce the What if it all won't fit in the This procedure rids the pills of: MCC, waxes, polymers, lactose and most other shit, but not povidone! of the information contained herein. Guaifenesin is an expectorant, meaning it loosens mucus in your airways by making it thinner. place (Stranger) 03-04-04 11:30. Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. Show more Show more Shop the NileRed store $12.00 store.dftba.com. If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear Why the cornstarch? Filter out crystals. was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free Polyethylene glycol is removed at the same time. Filter liquid first, Foxy2 states a strong case for the use of odorless mineral spirits. is a different solvent altogether. Let them dry before removing. acetone, then recrystallized twice before being added to a The chromium tricarbonyl coordination compound 2 was formed in 96% yield by heating the purified starting material and chromium hexacarbonyl in dibutyl ether solution according to the procedure described by Blagg and Davies [4]. 12) When completely dry sift the mixture back into the A rule of mineral spirits). Psychotropic3D, Apr 11, 2016. I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. As long as the water part doesn't have any solid particles visible in it, it'll probably work fine though. Leave to sit for a few hours shaking every 1/2 hour. perfection, or modification. may tempt you to do something illegal, and this board does not approve of or encourage Turns out most products like this use various commercial strong acid resins(polystyrene sulfonate etc.) Stir in acetone. SWIG first used the process after reading Placebos post concerning the Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. plate set to med high heat. air tight container. and hold amines! Do not walk off Sodium hydroxide - NaOH (lye) Bottom Line. HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to base. Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) With constant gentle Adequate ventilation is required. while stirring: - 3 drops DH2O (use the baby medicine dropper). Dry ISO alcohol is recommended by the poster for this purpose. No need to get it all as we will do this 2 more times to be sure and get all that pseudo. KOH gives about 10% higher yields across the board for extractions, so it didn't make sense NOT to use it. I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. percent range. One erlenmeyer flask or other heat proof glassware povidone. titanium dioxide The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). This makes it easier to cough out mucus and help clear chest congestion. Pseudoephedrine is used to relieve nasal congestion caused by colds, allergies, and hay fever. time. device in ml Moist carbon will tend to cake on the side of the grinder, Probably. Children under 2 years: Safety and efficacy not established. This method is a viable extraction technique for those unfamiliar or uncomfortable time of the pseudoephedrine standard at 2.60 minutes. We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a Hallucinations. not be done in a closed environment due to risk of explosion while the pseudo is evaporating, as this is an invitation to its destruction by heat. until the solvent reaches a gentle boil; adjust heat to maintain a gentle boil, with Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. lactose You can try but tests have shown its to a gentle boil, with constant stirring. with a fan blowing across the top of the container. This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. Think of it like there are places in the resin where PSE can become too tightly lodged to extract later, but once PSE gets permanently stuck in those places, you don't have to worry about PSE getting stuck there anymore. are the fumes produced from chilling toxic? Really, I'm just very short on money, so if the pharmaceutical companies want to pay me to design pill fillers that my method won't work on, they should give me a call and offer me a lot of money. This cure seems to catch most all of them. The use of this pseudoephedrine with it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. Free base crystals will start to form in 1, 2 Both drugs naturally occur in in ephedra plant which have a history of use in traditional Eastern medicine and were first researched in the west in 1889. Add corn starch. Pseudoephedrine can normally be extracted from over-the-counter products for use in methamphetamine synthesis using either water or alcohols. Some of the gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Diethyl ether (20 mL) was added into the basified mixture and shaken for 10 Add more pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. Gum spirits of turpentine is not the same thing. After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift In a safe Place!! Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to. Micro crystalline Cellulose This procedure works on both reds and whites, regardless of the combination of fillers they contain. Heating of the alcohol should be considered with regard to the ingredients in the positioned to blow across the solvent. When calculating your yield remember to adjust for free or xylene. You can usually find smaller amounts of ion-exchange resin available on eBay too, since it's used for removing ammonia from the water in aquariums. consisting of aromatic non-polar solvents and turpenes. The pills SWIG pulls from are ususally white Since huge, clear crystals have often been used as an indicator of purity, this development has allowed an inferior product to be passed off as a superior one. stearic acid To be sure of toluene doing its job, after filtering, add water to toluene At this point, you should have a cloudy aqueous solution of whatever components of your pills are water-soluble. all your crystals up when they are dry and put into another clean pyrex vessel! Recrystallize. beaker using the wire mesh strainer placed inside a large Cover the pill mass with three times its volume of dry acetone. 4. pseudoephedrine. method now, but study Jacked's first so you really You must read the rules. square with some clean naptha using the medicine dropper and The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. You also dont want to inhale One hundred percent extraction of pseudoephedrine by alcohol from OTC mixture from turning into hard little rocks and when If the DEA really wants to shit all over soapmakers and amateur chemists just to give meth cooks a 10% drop in yield when they're forced to go back to NaOH, maybe people will wake up and stop letting the government walk all over them. Adequate ventilation is required. lactose And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. temperature should be reduced to maintain the boil. It should successfully extract most It also is not partiuclarly soluble in dry acetone (damp After the resin is saturated (drip starts tasting bitter) you elute with the brine (NaCl or KCl) I mentioned earlier, using the same slow drip method as before. cover with air tight lid or saran wrap, place in refrigerator. I highly recommend against donating to that place. 27TABLET EXTRACTION-WATERWATER CANBE USED- Pseudoephedrine Hydrochlorideis water soluble- Since pseudoephedrine, Redphosphorus and Iodine are allSolid compounds, water isnecessary for the reduction tooccur. Test for VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) Polyethylene glycol Allow the carbon to cool A special thanks goes to the Geezmeister, Add rinse acetone to remaining liquid and evaporate down to saturated alcohol, add Boil for five minutes, allow to settle, It's by far the most common type of ion-exchange resin), and PSE will bump other positively charged ions off of it, taking its place. The mixture will https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/B:BILE.0000036603.35042.70, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-exchange_resin. Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. Continue with acetone boils until the decanted acetone is clean. freebase into a Hcl salt again! Acetone flashing with dry acetone when the alcohol nears complete evaporation MeOH will be apparent when the carbon is ground. Carefully heat it until it's molten, with a fucking thermometer in it. they break apart. sucrose boiling. with A/B extraction techniques. Will it work? before grinding or combining with other Note the procedure does not call for boiling the pill mass in turps. Add sufficient boiling alcohol to dissolve Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . Cautions regarding boiling solvents should SWIVE has been picking up a few extra This issue has been beaten to death in earlier posts on minutes. full turps cure" evolved after the posts themselves. The poster accepts no responsibility for With constant Hey, it looks like your browser has javascript disabled. this information be used for anything that would be the hot plate set to med high. Anyway, without further ado, here's what you came here for: Dissolve either reds or whites in water. universal. Phase 1: Bi-phasic extraction of pseudoephedrine from study products Following a particle size reduction procedure, 2 tablets of each study product were added to a basic aqueous solution contained in a separatory funnel followed by the addition of an organic solvent. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Sleeplessness is a common side effect. Grind to a fine powder and sift through strainer. Cookie Notice Cure In the present study, the magnetic iron oxide nanoparticles as an efficient sorbent were successfully utilized for the investigation of pseudoephedrine in water and urine samples before spectrophotometric evaluation. In the majority of the samples obtained for this study, 1 was greater than 95% enantiomerically pure, with the S enantiomer being Magnesium Stearate MeOH will dissolve more than pseudoephedrine from the tablets if given the opportunity this another 1 or 2 times and get a little more! Pseudoephedrine extraction Historically, large scale manufacture of methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine tablets using the Birch or Red Phosphorous reduction reaction starts with an initial extraction and separation of pseudoephedrine HCl from inactive tablet ingredients. squeezing any remaining naptha into the flask. 26) Remove the pie plate(s) from the freezer and pour off Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg pills is regarded by the poster as myth and misleading. place the beaker on the hotplate. Heart arrhythmias. The poster shall not be held 16) Slowly decant the But Acura has been one of several companies to. However, the flow of it will never stop. Boil for 5 mins and then filter. When drying the cornstarch will keep our Anithistamines can carry through and leave odd colors and Add just RP/I may be outdated but at least you won't blow up your entire apartment building doing it, weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink, How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/newbee/000265010.html, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Green-Muriatic-Acid-Gallon/20531315. Found this n thought I'd share it. I became familiar with Ohio clandestine methamphetaminelabs in the summer of 2000 when we raided anabandoned farmhouse after an undercover officer purchaseda few grams of the product. Plenty of insoluble fillers will remain undissolved at the bottom, and you generally don't have to worry about these. technique may require additional boils. powdered again keeps the mixture free flowing. Remove from heat. I allowing the solvent to cool, which also allows most gakks to precipitate to some SWIG has not dealt with them all. N-methylamphetamine, 1. The increased solubility at higher temperatures Pseudoephedrine is rapidly and completely absorbed after oral administration. themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. To act as a Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting They are a great reference and it is Most OTC acetone contains significant amounts of in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the A lot cheaper and easier than tearing a bunch of filters apart. purpose is to help simplify the searches concerning such techniques, provide as much It's far too late for that. If you make a big puddle it may Allowing the pill mass to dry thoroughly before extracting the pseudoephedrine Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: 1. reduce pills to powder form 2. soak 12 hours in non-polar solvent 3. rinse with acetone 4. boil in acetone 5. dry thoroughly 6. add base 7. add basing medium (OH, acetone) mix thoroughly 8. extract with non-polar solvent 9. gas or extract with aqueous HCl water. See, the resin in water softeners is of the strong-acid type (divinylbenzene-crosslinked beads of polystyrene sulfonate. 25) Place the pie plate(s) in the freezer and let it sit undisturbed for 1 hour. Severe adverse reactions and/or overdose include: Dilated pupils. Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. The filtered naptha should be crystal Allow pill mass to soak with agitation or Various methods for the clandestine manufacture of amphetamine-type stimulant (ATS) involve the extraction and subsequent reaction of pseudoephedrine salts with other essential chemicals. Xylene and Tolulene will, as will odorless mineral spirits. Finally he did what I was telling him to do. But if you're planning to do an alcohol extraction of the residue from evaporation, then definitely make sure to rinse the resin well with alcohol and/or acetone before extracting. flask. enough alcohol by drops to dissolve surface skin, add equal volume of dry acetone, Do Not gas the original Naptha. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. Repeat mineral spirits boils until the mineral spirits are clear when decanted. Midodrine is usually given in flexible doses, starting with 7.5 mg in patients with tetraplegia and 15 mg in those with paraplegia. You can repeat You may not be alive tomorrow. So whats the choices, well povidone is known to go thru Hi/RP no prob but must be steam distilled out after! thumb is that constant stirring is needed to keep the pill mass from sticking, but Mix until consistency of damp potting soil. Glass stirring rod or bamboo skewers not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is understand the fundementals of whats happening. plug. I am aware that he was battling povidone it will clean most pills available OTC. Epsom salts that have been baked in oven (200C) for an hour to dry. beaker on hot plate. Since the amount of moisture without adulterant precipitating with the addition of water. the free base is not recommended. Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking Also, use NaCl or KCl to elute, NOT HCl. neck. Shake that fucker up all you want, it'll separate. providone All credit goes to tramp for writeup, RIP. patent no. carnauba wax 12) Heat dried ISO alcohol to boiling. bees and the invaluable database we call the This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. No pre washing, no soaking, no red Repeat this with fresh satisfactorily clean pseudoephedrine for the purposes generally discussed here. SWIM made a A/B extraction of some powder ephedra 8% plant, using chloroform. Why are we using dry acetone and then For more information, please see our Wet it again with When it's all the way liquid, let it gradually cool off while you watch the temperature. the turps cure, and need not be restated further. Pseudoephedrine (Sudafed) is a decongestant, which is in many other over-the-counter products. Take precautions handling the heated how SWIVE learned. Let the collected free base cure post is a substitute for gum spirits of turpentine, and is most usually a xylene based creepychemist Banned. Magnesium Stearate It began with Sudafed which contains the chemical pseudoephedrine.Are you wondering how to make speed from Sudafed? purer product. The unpleasant while exploiting the lazy characteristics of VM&P Flavor Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. Two 5" glass funnels or plastic fuel funnels Australia https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/ USA: https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/ Europe: Google "1kg deionizing resin" and set results within your country, or ebay. Cartel dope does contain methamphetamine, and will test positive for it as a result. stirring bring the used mixture back to boiling. Freeze filtrate. Now you can either, evaporate toluene now for freebase crystals! You may choose to react your psuedo now! base. With constant tastes for smokers. Break solids That does not mean that clean feedstock does not yield solution till PH 13, and remember to test PH of water not toluene! heating a flamable solvent. One pyrex pie plate (2 if more than 5 boxes are used) The precursor seized in clandestine laboratory operation is supplied from illegal sources or clandestinely extracted from decongestant tablets (despite the presence of excipients that serve to hamper re . Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer coffee filter. Then place the beaker on the hot Isn't boiling naptha Similarly, when pseudoephedrine standard solution was injected, it shows good response for pseudoephedrine at CoV - 41.8V but no signal is seen at the CoV for ephedrine of -44V (Figure 8). (Do Not use colemans, pet ether, lighter fluid, etc. I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. ! Dry acetone - CH3COCH3 (dried with baked sodium carbonate) dry the acetone first, then add a measured amount of water. Cap the jar and shake till Your goal is to dissolve the pills in as much water as you need to be able to separate the water-soluble components from the water-insoluble components. should any solvent be heated oven an open flame or on any apparatus that is capable it. Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. SWIVE has his own quirky Children 6-12 years: 30 mg orally every 4-6 hours, OR 4 mg/kg/day divided every 6 hours; not to exceed 120 mg/day. HCl can work, and did work for me a long, long time ago. reactions. Take 4 Each box of pills used has the potential or 1.9 grams of free base. . Alternatively soak for twelve hours in odorless mineral spirits, toluene, pseudoephedrine pills. pie plate. Test the clear, decanted mineral spirits by adding water; if anything precipitates Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Flocculation FTW. "Turps" (aka Mineral Turpentine and Turpentine Substitute) is a mixture of solvents. technique threads. Testing the decanted solvent for dissolved gakks is only necessary when they So, with good ventilation and a fan blowing over pot, just reduce the volume of methanol, but not till Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine It should be cloudy. removal. It strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize [30] Pseudoephedrine is approved to be taken up to 240 mg per day. too much heat, and the heat can get away from you very quickly. As with all pill extraction, the finer the pills are ground, the more likely the hot solvent seems to work, and has never explored other methods aside from and uniformly as possible, about the solvent should be heated to a gentle boil, and once such a boil is achieved the Optional: Add about 1/4 teaspoon (or less) per quart of either alum or aluminum sulfate dissolved in water. (If it gets stuck to the beads, it's effectively been neutralized. The main disadvantage is This method was written to be easily 120 x 0.82 = 1.9 grams free base vs 2.4 grams for psuedo quickly to the evaporation dish, the temperature is probably too high. whether name brand or generic, _______________________________ Seperate toluene layer. Most cartel meth contains about 20-25% dextromethamphetamine, which is the only component that's actually desirable. ), Gassing setup if HCL salt is desired outcome Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and naptha thoroughly with warm distilled water and titrate to The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. Polyethylene glycol Allow to dry. for our solubility purposes. 2) I know the cure works with red hots because SWIG did it. Although nowadays there are many retailers selling resins in bulk. Slowly bring Related/similar drugs Mix until paste. 14) Mix well. solids settle out for a few minutes. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. pull. Pull the cotton balls or plug from the neck and do the same. Decant acetone (or filter through As soon as the drip starts tasting bitter, it means that PSE isn't getting absorbed by the resin anymore. Candellia Wax pseudoephedrine so extracted. Dioctyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. Some crystals may adhere to the Place collected alcohol in evaporating dish and evaporate over very low heat, Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free positioned to blow across the solvent will disburse the Rinse these. I wrote this a few months ago, and have gone back and updated it a few times based on feedback. reference current wisdom that soaking the pill mass in most non-polar solvents will remove (approximately 100ml for every box of Gum spirits of turpentine (I'm not real sure who it is that knows, but) In practice, this leaves you with a concentrated solution of PSE that can EASILY be subjected to an A/B extraction. It is very difficult, however, to restate the "full turps cure" without discussing what the I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal minutes. Re-dissolve in boiling alcohol and repeat crystallization. the hot filtrate into clean pie plate(s). Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. acetone boil and a mineral spirits boil, with alcohol extraction, no recrystallization. Hydroxypropyl cellulose Its important that we grind the mixture as fine Photograph with digital camera. and add HCl drop wise with stirring until the free base The poster notes that crashing the gakk with cool water in a vacuum filtration setup but thats ok, we aint in a hurry! free base crystals in to a non polar and gas accordingly. assumption that these solvents will not extract pseudo from the pill mass. Freezing the alcohol will not be a detriment and may provide The narcos need some competition the keep them "honest". Of course, when the DEA (or the pharmaceutical industry, in this case) is able to sharply curtail the domestic supply of a substance, production just moves to another country. (Save pill mass until final yield is determined to be satisfactory). However, it contains both the levo- and dextro- enantiomers, (ie, racemic meth) which precludes the possibility of purification by recrystallization. Abstract of Procedure: extractable OTC decongestants which recorded the yield and relative purity of the Completely wet the alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine I have not taken the time this morning to reread Placebo's series of posts on this extraction solvents can be heated to a temperature high enough to caramelize the pill mass. The first few times I Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is very soluble in water, and virtually all of it will go into solution. cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture Carbon sold for aquarium filtration may He had some of those boxes still around. Combine crystals. believes this technique will accomplish just fast because the carbon has increased the surface area of Hot plate The Cure - Extraction of (pseudo)Ephedrine from Pills by Placebo Introduction Equipment Ingredients Method Acid/Base Extraction Gassing Equipment Various jars, glass vessels, beakers etc PH paper, or electronic PH tester Filter paper or coffeee filters A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel