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We see from your examples (Alex telling Keller his girls cried after being interrogated, and his torture of the dog) that the abuse he has suffered has caused him to become capable of abuse himself. When Keller left the hospital, he went to Hollys house. On May 12, 2003, while walking a friend home, she was kidnapped, sexually assaulted, and strangled by Michael Briere. Crimes I loved the movie and really appreciate you breaking it down like that. Have seen the movie three times and never put that together. Really happy to hear that! Goals Its an unsolvable puzzle. And the movie deals a lot with the circle of life, the dawning of a new age, new beginnings, etc. I imagine it would have taken some time to make the connection to Hollys husband, if it was ever possible to do so. Imitates kidnapping children. To be fair, the idea that the clothes may have been stolen is actually never mentioned in the movie. Take revenge on God for killing her son by kidnapping other people's children, Kang the Conqueror (Marvel Cinematic Universe). And they are linked with this idea of necessary violence.. Birch was also interesting as a name because birch trees are thought to be resilient, bending but not breaking. Dover seemed like a portmanteau of dove (peace) and lover. Find latests mugshots and bookings from Abilene and other local cities. And yeah, Ralph is definitely a prisoner. Alex and Keller will probably go to jail. Mazes end up being a bigger deal than youd probably expect. I must say, I stumbled on to your site because of Prisoners but I really like what youre doing here as a whole! The story is great. So we have two very Christian characters in Keller and Grace who are dependent on Loki, a character symbolizing non-Christian religions. Brilliant article, enjoyed every word of it. At first, we might think it applies to the abduction of Joy and Anna. The Bob Taylor detail was one I didnt include in why response. I like it much better being ambiguous. Really insightful. document.getElementById( "ak_js_3" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. I guess it was made to distract/confuse the viewers. He seemed very alive at the rescue, yelling for help. She was there less than a week. Alex drives his RV to the house he had been abducted from in 1987, the home of his actual parents. I searched for more movies with the actor Jack G after watching Nortunal Animals. Weve talked a lot about prisons already, so this might be repetitious to you. The first kid they ever took was Alex in 1987, who was actually Barry Milland. to Keller Junior is that killing is okay because the animal population needs to be maintained. Gyllenhaal was just OK, not especially convincing. Can you explain the girls flashback when she sees Keller? 100 Belmont-Mt. Actually, now that I think about it, it is possible that Holly was in fact trying to kill Anna by administering a lethal dose of opiates in that scene, since she would have realized by that point that she was at high risk of being caught by other parties. Were purposefully left to figure it out on our own. We know the girls were interested in the van. Its really just Loki and Keller who keep their faith. I dont know where his faith lie, but it was grace that got him through. Except, Keller uses wood and his carpentry skills to imprison and torture Alex. Alex just took the girls for a ride, and Holly decided to abduct them. If someone would have put 2 and 2 together they could have solved it way sooner. One interesting thing Ive noticed is that usually the highest quality movies find a way to distill their themes or narrative in the opening shot/scene. (written by) Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jhann Jhannsson Cinematography by Roger Deakins . Who was the guy in the priests basement? Please also note the professors I have been working with at the end of this video. Yeah, I like the mixture of Christian and Norse. Stick a piece over your mouth and see how ridiculously easy it is to open your mouth. Accepting not just the bad but the good as well. To talk about Prisoners, it helps if we un-maze the story by laying out its key events in chronological order. (But is also comes from the old Scandinavian meaning a ravine, gap, gorge, or a crevasse between cliffs. The French, Celtics, and Gauls all had similar versions of the word (Douvres, Dubrs, and Dubris, respectively) and all meant water as well. And the hidden basement with the hole in the ground. Hes a red herring that creates doubt about Alex. It opens with a shot of a snowy forest, where a deer quietly noses around for food. Yet hes equally difficult to understand. At the end the news paper article said he was found and reunited with his family so he was alive, it seemed like a death notice to me too until I saw that. Before we talk about mazes, lets talk about in-roads. Ive had that happen and few times and it sticks with you. Absolutely brilliant analysis, I wouldnt ne surprised if it is the best lne there is. This piece is wonderful contextualises and puts in words what the movie does not so Thank you bc I enjoyed the read v much. It happened in broad daylight, in the Junction Triangle neighbourhood in west Toronto, and detectives would. This item: Captives of Liberty: Prisoners of War and the Politics of Vengeance in the American Revolution (Early American Studies) by T. Cole Jones Hardcover $33.69 Running from Bondage: Enslaved Women and Their Remarkable Fight for Freedom in Revolutionary America by Karen Cook Bell Hardcover $15.80 Review I think of it as a cry for help by the way he looked at the officer behind the desk. 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Similar to how Fight Club is powerful because its not really about Edward Nortons character but rather a deconstruction of individuality in a consumer-driven culture. Check out the rest of our movie guide for Prisoners. The first scene shows how Keller trains his son to kill. The next thing I remember is the detectives discussing giving Holly notice about Alex. So he moves the fridge and finds the body. The whole piece around the priest and Hollys husband seems a little loose to me. Which led to Kellers survival mindset. Something like that. We only learn that the items have been bought. Filming & Production When I watched I assumed that its contents were responsible for the heavy cognitive impairment that resulted in the state of the children upon their recovery at the hospital in addition to the mental trauma they suffered, and in the older victims contributed to a lifetime effect of mental vacancy and unresponsiveness seen in Alex. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Spiritual imprisonment: Holly and her husband found it impossible to move beyond their belief God had wronged them. Let me know if you have thoughts. And the girl had been drugged. They promptly reported her missing, and an "Amber alert" was issued the next morning. Another thing is the significance of showing the prepper mindset and taking everything in his own hand and his general lack of trust in higher authorities including police and perhaps even more broadly God, and how that changed when he was in the most helpless situation in what he prepared nothing for, and yet found that red whistle which will save his life. Thats cool, thats interesting. So the priest left the man tied up to die. Why did Hollys husband brag/confess to him? Theres an extreme cognitive dissonance that Franklin struggles with. Excellent insight, Jasmine! OF COURSE! Kellers faith in preparation creates a chain of events that causes his daughter to leave a whistle in the hole in Hollys yard. The only thing I can think of is 1.) That the book is a dramatic retelling of Adams cheating on then dumping Gyllenhaal and the pain he dealt with in the aftermath of her hurting him. Kind of similar to the movie Zodiac. What if deep down he DOES want her to go to jail! 2.) Though, as the movies ends before Loki saves Keller, that sense of catharsis is something Prisoners denies us. Thanks. The whistle is universal, no words are needed, no language barrier, only the unmistakable call for help. Hed have explained what happened. Joy and Anna leave the Birchs to find Annas missing whistle. Not to mention how tattoos relate to paganism and Norse culture. And I also found this thread by Chris by chance. But 5 years ago, he was missing. In the characters of Taylor & Alex, I agree with your accurate explanations that they are unable to speak & frozen by cognitive dissonance & being unable to speak of something as cosmicaly horrific as being abducted & what follows. To put it another way, not only are they unable to speak, but they speak in a completely different language. When we first meet Holly, she tells Loki that her husband has been gone for 5 years. That kind of foreshadowing is done for a reason. Theres no prints. After the police let Alex go, Keller kidnaps Alex. But at the start of the song, theres an intro that concludes with, We gon put it in reverse. Then near the end of the song, Kendrick raps, Pay attention, that one decision, changed both of they lives/One curse at a time/Reverse the manifest and good karmaBecause if Anthony killed Ducky, Top Dawg could be serving life/While I grew up without a father and die in a gunfight. Theres a gunshot and the sound of audio reversing with lyrics from earlier tracks playing backwards. I noticed how Holly cares for her dog and I wonder if Alex abusing it is his way of getting back at her (His abuser). It put tape on my mouth. But in the moments before she speaks, we see Joys memory of escaping, the flashes of being in the house, on the ground, someone leaving the room, the book of mazes they had to complete, running away. Hey! Theres a second Alex in Prisoners. In addition to her legislative duties, Jones works as the Business Manager for Renz Law LLC. Blaming God for not saving him, they "waged a war with God" and sought to make others feel their pain. Theres a reason that scriptwriter Aaron Guzikowski and director Denis Villeneuve included the scene of Alex yanking the dog off the ground by the leash to watch it choke and kick. Her character is the embodiment of the spiritual crisis the Joneses hope to enact. I've been taking it for four or five years. Im only 13 minutes in right now, but it is interesting! Theyll each find salvation because of it. CSP-SAC is on 882 acres, sharing this property with Folsom State Prison, Folsom Women's Facility, and California Prison Industry Authority. I am impressed by how you have dissected each and every detail down to the meaning of the characters names. Yeah, I had the same sense of spirituality. Weve already discussed the importance of trees in pagan religions. Welcome to the colossal explanation of Prisoners. In Christianity, water is a major theme, playing a vital role in baptism and the idea of purity. So when Loki discovers Alex, Holly is making Keller her prisoner. I checked internet, your analysis is really cool and comprehensive. Keller doesnt get the answer he seeks from all the torture HE did, but by Joys miraculous escape and him making the connection that she saw him at some point. Thanks, Justin! Grace completely falls apart in the wake of Annas disappearance, to the point of being non-functioning. So, maybe after recalling what Annas mother said, he might be able to link that to the sound of the whistle at Hollys house and try to find Keller. I thank you all from the bottom of my heart. And just to put a bow on it, when Grace brings Anna to see Loki, a similar silence occurs. Das Drehbuch schrieb Aaron Guzikowski. I am very much amazed with the way you see things about the movie and the way you tell them.Just wanted to say thank you. How do you know the Birchs house is Alexs old house? . I believe that Loki will save Keller. I imagine its a pretty isolating position as he has lost his sister to the kidnap, his mother to the grief, and his father to his own agenda. Its a huge part of the religionlikea cornerstone of Christian theology. Theres clearly an attempt to get us to think about listening to the album in reverse chronological order. Why? Its too easy to say Oh, well, they were completely messed up because of their own abductions when they were kids! And as you said yourself the whole plot development depends a bit too much on the fact that neither Alex nor Taylor are willing to talk about their experiences. The Central Mississippi Correctional Facility (CMCF) was established in 1986 and built on 171 acres in Pearl in Rankin County. The body is beyond recognition, but there is a necklace of a maze. We then have Bob Taylor being obsessed with mazes and the FBI agents book detailing how the child abductor dubbed the Invisible Man had used mazes. They accept what their instincts tell them and both end up playing the hero. Especially in a building that has so many issues. By leaving that choice in our hands, the film becomes a moment of reflection, of confrontation. Bob somehow escaped, but the memories kept him from telling the police. After being detained, Michael Briere, 35, was charged with her murder. Residence: Asheville. How do we have faith in the face of bad events? Details. So right there in the last names of the two main families, we see more religious references. Holly Jones. It would also explain why the surviving victims displayed lack of speech; they were so warped by their drug-induced experiences they were no longer capable of communicatingprisoners in their own minds. Psychological imprisonment: Alex and Bob Taylor both suffer from the trauma of their kidnapping. As mentioned before, we have a character named Grace. The Birches certainly seemed far more resilient than the Dovers, who were breaking in different ways. I was so impatient with all the people not talking, but it makes sense now, the priest, bound by his guilt and confession rules, Alex, most likely having been drugged from an early age on which alters your brain and personality, and God knows what else these people did to him and Bob. Themes are developed through motifs. The Monkey and Rooster zodiac signs, which Jake discusses with the waitress foreshadow the character traits of Jake (Loki) and Hugh (Keller). I like your explanation of why Keller was probably saved but when I watched, I assumed he wasnt because he slid down too far and lost. Holly's husband is the corpse that [] It asks you what you believe in. Because thats exactly what these names are. After this all goes down a lot of parents get closure, the two families go home and deal with court stuff, but this family has a living ghost that haunts them 24/7. He says hes checking 9 of them. She was portrayed by Melissa Leo, who also playedSally in Oblivion. I watched prisoners after its release and i was young so it felt just like another movie. Alex, nostalgic about his own childhood, tries to play with the girls in the RV. Which is, all in all, pretty fitting. Why couldnt Loki identify the dead body as that of Hollys husband? An upstairs bathroom could lose power but the bedroom down the hall might be on a separate breaker and still have power. Which really is a question for us.